The Laser Lounge Podcast at Pate Ranch
Master the business of making. Whether you run CO2 or galvo lasers, UV printers, or embroidery machines, this is your weekly resource for turning equipment into profit. While we cover the tech, our conversations prioritize the business side of the industry—covering marketing, scaling, and the strategic decisions that grow your shop.
Join us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PateRanchCreations
Join us on facebook also at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/laserlounge1
Show Sponsors: GS2 Awards - https://gs2awards.com/pages/alisha-pate
Haotian Lasers - https://haotianlaser.store/
Trotec Laser USA: https://www.troteclaser.com/en-us/
Podcast Description
Master the business of making. Whether you run CO2 or galvo lasers, UV printers, or embroidery machines, this is your weekly resource for turning equipment into profit. While we cover the tech, our conversations prioritize the business side of the industry—covering marketing, scaling, and the strategic decisions that grow your shop.
Join us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PateRanchCreations
Join us on facebook also at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/laserlounge1
Show Sponsors: GS2 Awards - https://gs2awards.com/pages/alisha-pate
Haotian Lasers - https://haotianlaser.store/
Trotec Laser USA: https://www.troteclaser.com/en-us/
Episodes
Jul 9, 2026
Jul 9, 2026
28 min
Welcome back to the show, everybody! Today, we are pulling back the curtain on a technology that completely bridges the gap between standard customization and ultra-premium, high-dollar craftsmanship. We are hanging out live in the shop today with Brandon from IKONICS Imaging. We're breaking down the actual business of sandcarving. Who's buying it, how shops are making real money with it, and what the learning curve actually looks like when you move past lasers and start carving with depth. Brandon, welcome to the mic!
https://ikonicsimaging.com/
https://gs2awards.com/pages/shop-ikonics-sandcarvers
Jun 11, 2026
Jun 11, 2026
40 min
In this episode of The Laser Lounge, we’re talking about friction — the hidden inefficiencies, waste, confusion, and unnecessary steps that quietly cost your small business time, money, energy, and customers.
I’ll share a quick update on what’s new with Pate Ranch, lessons learned from running a growing maker business, and best practices that can help add value to your own shop. Then we’ll dig into what friction looks like behind the scenes: quoting issues, proofing chaos, file disorganization, inventory problems, shop layout headaches, too many product options, and the kind of busywork that makes you feel productive while actually slowing you down.
We’ll also talk about customer-facing friction — the things that make it harder for people to buy from you. If your offers are unclear, your ordering process is confusing, your pricing is vague, or customers have to work too hard to figure out what you do, you may be losing sales before the conversation even starts.
The goal is simple: make your business easier to run and easier to buy from.
Because customers are not just buying a product. They are looking for a solution — unique customized products, high quality, reliable service, and confidence that you can handle the details.
If you run a laser business, maker shop, or custom product business, this episode will help you spot where time, profit, and customers may be leaking out of your process — and how to start leaning things out one step at a time.
Apr 25, 2026
Apr 25, 2026
56 min
Sales are not dead, but the customer is changing.
In this episode, James and I are talking about the K-shaped economy and what it means for makers, small shops, and creative business owners trying to sell right now.
Some buyers are still spending. Some buyers are tightening up hard. And that means the “mushy middle” is getting harder to survive in. If your products are not clearly positioned as premium, practical, giftable, useful, or worth the money, they may be getting skipped over.
We’re talking about perceived value, product positioning, when to rebrand versus discount, how to rethink your product line, and why B2B may be one of the smartest pivots makers can make right now.
This is not a doom-and-gloom episode. It’s a “pay attention and get sharper” episode.
Because sometimes the economy is part of the problem… but sometimes your product positioning needs to get its hair done and stop showing up in pajama pants.
Hope Yoder Embroidery School: https://hopeyoder.com/product-category/courses/in-person-workshop/
Jan 24, 2026
Jan 24, 2026
30 min
James is back from Houston to kick off 2026 with some "real talk." We start by pulling back the curtain on our own 2025. What worked, what broke, and the numbers behind our business.
Then, we dive into the "K-Shaped Economy." The middle class "impulse buy" is disappearing, and the gap between survival and luxury is getting wider. If you sell handmade goods, this isn't just theory, it's your new operating system. We break down what this economic shift means for makers and why 2026 is the year you either pivot or get run over. No fluff, just survival.
Aug 8, 2025
Aug 8, 2025
45 min
In this episode, I sit down with Alison Todd from GS2 Awards for an inside look at their award-making business, the story behind it, and how they bring recognition to life through custom designs. We also discuss their role as a wholesale blanks supplier, the educational classes they offer for makers, and their position as official distributors for Trotec Laser USA and IkonicsImaging. https://gs2awards.com/
Jun 28, 2025
Writing Your Business Plan for a Maker Business.
Jun 28, 2025
Jun 28, 2025
26 min
In this episode, we’re breaking down the Maker/Laser Business Plan Template—section by section—and showing you how to actually use it to shape your business, not just fill in the blanks.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, scattered, or unsure about your next move, this is your roadmap. No expensive course. Just a clear, tactical breakdown of the plan every maker needs—especially if you want to stop spinning your wheels and start building with purpose.
We’ll walk through:✔ Why each section matters (and what most makers skip)✔ How this plan helps you price better, market smarter, and operate cleaner✔ What to include if you’re pitching to a client or applying for funding✔ Why clarity beats complexity every time
Whether you’re starting from scratch or tightening up your current operation, this episode gives you the foundation to run your shop like a business—not just a hobby.
Apr 18, 2025
Scrappy Side Hustle vs. A Real Small Business
Apr 18, 2025
Apr 18, 2025
1hr 5 min
Today we’re digging into a conversation that every maker, laser owner, and creative entrepreneur needs to hear — the difference between a scrappy side hustle and a real-deal small business.
I’m your host, Alisha Pate, and James is here with me at the ranch as we break down the mindsets, the money, the misconceptions, and the messy middle of it all.
Is personalizing a blank really worth what we charge? Dang right it is — and we’re going to tell you why.Spoiler alert: if you’re still treating your shop like a hobby, that may be exactly what’s holding you back.
This episode is brought to you by our amazing sponsors:GS2 Awards & Trotec, Haotian Laser, and Phantom CNC — trusted names powering makers like you.
Let’s talk shop — and let’s get real.
Mar 3, 2025
Mar 3, 2025
27 min
Thinking about leveling up your shop with a big-ticket item like a UV printer? In this episode, I break down how I decided to pull the trigger on a major equipment upgrade—and what you need to consider before you do the same. From crunching the numbers to sizing up demand, we’ll explore the must-knows for making smart, regret-free investments in your business. Tune in for real talk from the shop floor!
Feb 21, 2025
Opportunity Costs in the Maker Space
Feb 21, 2025
Feb 21, 2025
34 min
Welcome back to The Laser Lounge at Pate Ranch, the podcast where we talk all things laser engraving, making, and running a successful business in the maker world. I’m your host, Alisha Pate, and today we’re diving into a topic that can make or break your business—opportunity cost.
Every decision you make in your shop—whether it’s taking on a new custom order, buying a new machine, or spending time learning a skill—comes with a hidden cost. What are you giving up by saying ‘yes’ to one thing over another? Are you making choices that actually grow your business, or are you stuck spinning your wheels on low-value work?
In this episode, we’re breaking down how opportunity cost plays into pricing, time management, and business growth—so you can make smarter decisions that move you forward instead of holding you back. Let’s talk about what’s really costing you money in your business… and how to fix it!
Sep 17, 2024
Sep 17, 2024
1hr 59 sec
"Welcome to today's episode of The Laser Lounge Podcast! I'm thrilled to have a special guest joining us — Jeff Stockton, an expert in the art of firearm engraving. With years of experience, Jeff has mastered the craft of transforming firearms into true works of art, blending precision, creativity, and tradition in every piece he engraves. Today, we'll dive deep into the world of firearm engraving, exploring the techniques, challenges, and stories behind his incredible work. Whether you're a seasoned engraver, a laser enthusiast, or just curious about this unique art form, you're in for a treat. Let's get started!"

Laser Lounge at Pate Ranch
This podcast will be focused on makers at all levels who love making things with their CO2 or Fiber lasers. We will all work together to share technical info and how-to's and also some learnings on growing your business. This is a no BS Zone. Come join us on our Facebook page as well to see many great projects and instructional videos.





